Any advice on the drugs front - legal ones obviously !

Whilst my anxiety is better than it was I am all for any extra bit of help to get me through this flight and wondered if anyone knows if 'Kalms' or similar tablets are any good - or are they just a placebo??

Maybe some herbal hippy remedies??  I'll take anything that might help - GP doesn't believe in diazepam or valium or whatever - anyway I remember it makes me groggy for ages afterwards.

I know its mind over matter, but as Tesco say....every little helps :)

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I swear by rescue remedy. About £8 from boots and I pour some into a bottle of water and just sip away

Thanks for tip - a friend suggested the same but she puts a couple of drops under the tongue apparently.  I will get some :)  And maybe some vodka ! lol !

Every little helps indeed

It's also called  the 'aggregation of marginal gains'. It's what the British cycling team did in the last Olympics.

They used lots of little improvements to get one big one.

Keith.

You can also buy rescue remedy in pastille form from *oots the leading High St chemist-That being said I chew ordinary fruit pastilles on take off and do deep breathing exercises -however, have found the need to do these less and less recently -but have that strategy to hand if needed.

Do what ever you think works for you but I would avoid medication if possible,

best wishes,

Elizabeth.

excellent advice as always on this forum :) thank you all again - three days and counting ! 

Maybe stupid advice, but alcohol is oldest known anxiolitic. Not too much because then you will feel even worse, but glass of wine of small can of beer always helps me.

Hi Anna - this is a topic I can relate to. Before I started to deal with my issues head on, I did try various products! Initially I tried Kalms but these had no effect. Interestingly alcohol was also a waste of time. How it works on the body in it's normal state is one thing but I found that in heightened anxiety it didn't alleviate my worries at all. I then went to my GP and was prescribed Valium at short notice. To be fair, Valium does work, but and this is a big BUT... it will help at the time but you can't take it for a week in advance leading up a flight which is when my anxiety started in earnest. It was after then that I found Keith's course because I knew that I had to confront it head on and face my fears. As Keith points out, marginal gains all add up so the rescue remedy is great but add to it with other gains. The best things I did to improve my lot was to get some Cognitive Behavioural Therapy sessions through my GP which in turn brought me in touch with Keith. If you haven't already, make contact and go on the course and absorb fully the knowledge from the books and CDs. These two things made me break the cycle of fear. Two years ago I had Valium for any flight, one hour or anything but in March I did flights to and from Los Angeles without any drugs or alcohol. The flights had moderate levels of turbulence which I don't care for but I was able to deal with them comfortably with the skills the course taught me. Marginal gains do indeed add up - try the remedy and use the breathing/calming techniques along with understanding flight principles and you'll be in a better place to handle things.

You'll progress for sure - good luck!

Thanks Nick

Keith


Hi Everyone - thank you all for the tips -  I like the fact that everyone on here knows exactly how I feel and doesn't just go ...'oh you'll be alright its safer than driving a car' because that doesn't help !  But yes rescue remedy, positive thinking, breathing exercises and a couple of vodkas all add up to those marginal gains !  Also the fact I have the children to deal with means I simply CAN'T be quite to self involved this rime around.  I'm now counting down in hours and not days....
Nick Little said:

Hi Anna - this is a topic I can relate to. Before I started to deal with my issues head on, I did try various products! Initially I tried Kalms but these had no effect. Interestingly alcohol was also a waste of time. How it works on the body in it's normal state is one thing but I found that in heightened anxiety it didn't alleviate my worries at all. I then went to my GP and was prescribed Valium at short notice. To be fair, Valium does work, but and this is a big BUT... it will help at the time but you can't take it for a week in advance leading up a flight which is when my anxiety started in earnest. It was after then that I found Keith's course because I knew that I had to confront it head on and face my fears. As Keith points out, marginal gains all add up so the rescue remedy is great but add to it with other gains. The best things I did to improve my lot was to get some Cognitive Behavioural Therapy sessions through my GP which in turn brought me in touch with Keith. If you haven't already, make contact and go on the course and absorb fully the knowledge from the books and CDs. These two things made me break the cycle of fear. Two years ago I had Valium for any flight, one hour or anything but in March I did flights to and from Los Angeles without any drugs or alcohol. The flights had moderate levels of turbulence which I don't care for but I was able to deal with them comfortably with the skills the course taught me. Marginal gains do indeed add up - try the remedy and use the breathing/calming techniques along with understanding flight principles and you'll be in a better place to handle things.

You'll progress for sure - good luck!

And well done Nick for that massive trip to the States - u have clearly crossed into the Successful Flyers department :)
 
Anna Palmer said:


Hi Everyone - thank you all for the tips -  I like the fact that everyone on here knows exactly how I feel and doesn't just go ...'oh you'll be alright its safer than driving a car' because that doesn't help !  But yes rescue remedy, positive thinking, breathing exercises and a couple of vodkas all add up to those marginal gains !  Also the fact I have the children to deal with means I simply CAN'T be quite to self involved this rime around.  I'm now counting down in hours and not days....
Nick Little said:

Hi Anna - this is a topic I can relate to. Before I started to deal with my issues head on, I did try various products! Initially I tried Kalms but these had no effect. Interestingly alcohol was also a waste of time. How it works on the body in it's normal state is one thing but I found that in heightened anxiety it didn't alleviate my worries at all. I then went to my GP and was prescribed Valium at short notice. To be fair, Valium does work, but and this is a big BUT... it will help at the time but you can't take it for a week in advance leading up a flight which is when my anxiety started in earnest. It was after then that I found Keith's course because I knew that I had to confront it head on and face my fears. As Keith points out, marginal gains all add up so the rescue remedy is great but add to it with other gains. The best things I did to improve my lot was to get some Cognitive Behavioural Therapy sessions through my GP which in turn brought me in touch with Keith. If you haven't already, make contact and go on the course and absorb fully the knowledge from the books and CDs. These two things made me break the cycle of fear. Two years ago I had Valium for any flight, one hour or anything but in March I did flights to and from Los Angeles without any drugs or alcohol. The flights had moderate levels of turbulence which I don't care for but I was able to deal with them comfortably with the skills the course taught me. Marginal gains do indeed add up - try the remedy and use the breathing/calming techniques along with understanding flight principles and you'll be in a better place to handle things.

You'll progress for sure - good luck!

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